Palestinians want Jerusalem as the capital city of their state?
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1 Hour Ago: 25th September 2011 02:36 Re: Palestinians want Jerusalem as the capital city of their state? Yeah, I doubt Israel would ever agree to that.
You are excused. I couldn't resist.
59 Minutes Ago: 25th September 2011 03:02 Re: Palestinians want Jerusalem as the capital city of their state? The capital of Israel was first Tel-Aviv, every single country's embassy is located there; not one is in Jerusalem. Go to any country and all embassies are at the capitals. It was switched from Tel-Aviv to Jerusalem because they used the religion card. Go figure... Before the 1967 war, I think and if I'm wrong, whoops, Jerusalem was on Palestinian territory, but afterwards, and now that Israel is using Jerusalem as it's capital, they're using it as a strategic (and religious) maneuver to keep it and probably keeping it so they don't go back to pre-1967 borders. If they do, and the whole international community has been pushing this for years, they lose a chunk of their so called "sacred" city to the Palestinians who had it in the first place.
Last edited by David22; 55 Minutes Ago at 03:06. 11 Minutes Ago: 25th September 2011 03:51 Re: Palestinians want Jerusalem as the capital city of their state? The capital of Israel was first Tel-Aviv, every single country's embassy is located there; not one is in Jerusalem. Go to any country and all embassies are at the capitals. It was switched from Tel-Aviv to Jerusalem because they used the religion card. Go figure... Before the 1967 war, I think and if I'm wrong, whoops, Jerusalem was on Palestinian territory, but afterwards, and now that Israel is using Jerusalem as it's capital, they're using it as a strategic (and religious) maneuver to keep it and probably keeping it so they don't go back to pre-1967 borders. If they do, and the whole international community has been pushing this for years, they lose a chunk of their so called "sacred" city to the Palestinians who had it in the first place.
Who built the temple in Jerusalem? I think the Jews were there first and it's their sacred city... most sacred city in Islam is Mecca isn't it?49 - 67 Jerusalem divided
There wasn't anything recognised as 'palestinian territory' in 1967 - Jordan occupied eastern Jerulalem though, are you telling us that the Palestinians are really Jordanians? maybe they could just go and live in Jordan then.
11 Minutes Ago: 25th September 2011 03:51 Re: Palestinians want Jerusalem as the capital city of their state? Yep. Israel will get so angry at the Palestinians it will literally resort to nuking itself just to be rid of them no matter what. Sounds feasible bro 
you clown. Israel and Palestine get into some war or altercation, Iran steps in to help Israel with their secret nukes, Israel calls their bluff, Israel gets nuked, US jews get upset and nuke Iran, Russia thinks nukes are coming for them and nuke the US, Mrs America... I mean Britain gets told help the US and make sandwiches for the white house in the meantime, Britain gets nuked too, France builds a spaceship and runs away to Mars, Russians roll into Europe and crush Germany, China decides to nuke anyone in the far east area that doesn't join them, India and Pakistan take advantage of world war III to nuke each other... and yeah, that's how it all ends. But in all seriousness most of the above scenario and many more are ways how the whole Israel- Palestine thing could go nuclear.
1 Minute Ago: 25th September 2011 04:01 Re: Palestinians want Jerusalem as the capital city of their state? you clown. Israel and Palestine get into some war or altercation, Iran steps in to help Israel with their secret nukes, Israel calls their bluff, Israel gets nuked, US jews get upset and nuke Iran, Russia thinks nukes are coming for them and nuke the US, Mrs America... I mean Britain gets told help the US and make sandwiches for the white house in the meantime, Britain gets nuked too, France builds a spaceship and runs away to Mars, Russians roll into Europe and crush Germany, China decides to nuke anyone in the far east area that doesn't join them, India and Pakistan take advantage of world war III to nuke each other... and yeah, that's how it all ends. But in all seriousness most of the above scenario and many more are ways how the whole Israel- Palestine thing could go nuclear.
Iran wouldn't nuke Palestinians in Israel. Apart from that the rest of your post sounds realistic.
Why are some British Obssessed the Palestinians?
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33 Minutes Ago: 27th June 2011 01:00 Why are some Britons obssessed the Palestinians? As much as I sympathise with the Palestinians, there's a hell of a lot worse human rights abuses going on in the world. And yet, a significant number of Britons are practically obsessed with the Palestinians - making chart songs for them (as seen in the other thread), holding demonstrations, making sure everyone knows that they support them, etc.
This is definitely disproportionate. It would be okay if these same people did the same for other people suffering human rights abuses.
So why? Is it politically motivated? Supporting the Palestinians definitely seems to be an ideology of the left. Is it because the antagonist country is USA-backed Israel? Would they care as much if it was Nigeria, Syria or Iran for example?
29 Minutes Ago: 27th June 2011 01:05 Re: Why are some Britons obssessed the Palestinians? I do wonder this tbh. Boycott Israel sure, yet by boycotting certain companies you could do far more to help resolve conflicts in the Congo that have killed something like 6 million people. Where are the songs about Iran? Or Syria or Saudi Arabia or North Korea. I could go on.
12 Minutes Ago: 27th June 2011 01:21 Re: Why are some Britons obssessed the Palestinians? Then why is the Israel megathread predominantly populated by Muslims ranting about tha joos?Right now there are a couple of Jews on there that spend their time ranting about Muslims. Anyway OP asked why Britons care about Israel. Most Britons are not Muslims.
7 Minutes Ago: 27th June 2011 01:26 Re: Why are some Britons obssessed the Palestinians? I've been wondering this myself too recently and I think it has more to do with Israel's wealth and support from the US. Many people expect attrocities and 'apartheid' style regimes from third world countries, but not from richer nations especially those with huge financial support from the US. Perhaps there is also a feeling of a guilt that it is their government who is heavily financing the attrocities commited by Israel.Does the UK give aid to Israel? I have never really understood the UK position towards Israel. It seems to shift. Tbh I hope the UK abstain from the vote in September rather than voting against. Its an odd case as well. Israel and Palestine is hardly a case thats been seen in many other places. But I think Israel is heavily overrepresented on TSR
6 Minutes Ago: 27th June 2011 01:27 Re: Why are some Britons obssessed the Palestinians? Right now there are a couple of Jews on there that spend their time ranting about Muslims. Anyway OP asked why Britons care about Israel. Most Britons are not Muslims.
Yes, but almost without exception it is difficult to find a Muslim that doesn't care extremely strongly about the Palestine situation. Young, old, male, female, rich, poor... it doesn't matter, they are completely incapable of unbiased thinking. When you ask them how they feel about the far worse plight of the West Africans they look at you like you're from another planet. It is pretty obvious people will care about people they see as their own, it just annoys me when they present themselves as humantarians because they couldn't give a crap when their people are the oppressors (which is the majority of the time).The other type of person that care about this issue (and almost solely about this issue) are usually lefty students, and their leaders like George Galloway. They don't care about oppression, they care about who they perceive is carrying it out.
5 Minutes Ago: 27th June 2011 01:28 Re: Why are some Britons obssessed the Palestinians? Yes, but almost without exception it is difficult to find a Muslim that doesn't care extremely strongly about the Palestine situation. Young, old, male, female, rich, poor... it doesn't matter, they are completely incapable of unbiased thinking. When you ask them how they feel about the far worse plight of the West Africans they look at you like you're from another planet. It is pretty obvious people will care about people they see as their own, it just annoys me when they present themselves as humantarians because they couldn't give a crap when their people are the oppressors (which is the majority of the time). The other type of person that care about this issue (and almost solely about this issue) are usually lefty students, and their leaders like George Galloway. They don't care about oppression, they care about who they perceive is carrying it out.
I really don't understand the fixation among students. I mean its only since I came to TSR that I've seen it quite to this level. 4 Minutes Ago: 27th June 2011 01:29 Re: Why are some Britons obssessed the Palestinians? Yes, but almost without exception it is difficult to find a Muslim that doesn't care extremely strongly about the Palestine situation. Young, old, male, female, rich, poor... it doesn't matter, they are completely incapable of unbiased thinking. When you ask them how they feel about the far worse plight of the West Africans they look at you like you're from another planet. It is pretty obvious people will care about people they see as their own, it just annoys me when they present themselves as humantarians because they couldn't give a crap when their people are the oppressors (which is the majority of the time). The other type of person that care about this issue (and almost solely about this issue) are usually lefty students, and their leaders like George Galloway. They don't care about oppression, they care about who they perceive is carrying it out.
You're not biased and prejudiced at all though, like teh damn moooslims. 2 Minutes Ago: 27th June 2011 01:31 Re: Why are some Britons obssessed the Palestinians? Does the UK give aid to Israel? I have never really understood the UK position towards Israel. It seems to shift. Tbh I hope the UK abstain from the vote in September rather than voting against. Its an odd case as well. Israel and Palestine is hardly a case thats been seen in many other places. But I think Israel is heavily overrepresented on TSR
Indeed it is an odd situation... When in history have you ever heard about a group of people being fought off of a piece of land as a weaker force expecting to get that land back through guilt tripping? It is amazing to me that they didn't just surrender way back in the 60s or 70s. Imagine Germany refused to redraw its boundaries after WWII, we would have had to keep our foot on their heads until they relented.
