Why don't more people look at getting ACA from a banking graduate scheme?
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There seems to be a lot of focus on the Big 4 round here, and OK, sure, they're respectable companies and a solid start to your career.
But I'm wondering why some careers in industry, where you can get the same qualification are not also covered on this forum? Personally, I think this route could be far better.
I'm mainly talking about the graduate schemes in the Finance sector offered by banks. Both Barclays and Lloyds Banking Group offer schemes that will allow you to complete the ACA. In addition to that, you'll gain three years of banking experience (yes, I know it's not investment banking), and banking seems to be a common move for ACA's who have qualified from the Big 4. Why not just start in a bank right away, if that is your intention?
Other benefits are...
- The banks pay much, much better (Barclays start on £36k+£8k joining bonus, Lloyds are less, starting on £28k+£3k joining bonus, but both of these packages are far better than you'd find at the Big 4).
- The work is more interesting. I don't know about you, but I don't much fancy the idea of doing audit for 3 years. I'd rather actually be doing budgeting, forecasting, project finance, and making actual decisions, rather than reporting on events that have already taken place.
- If you wished to go into investment banking afterwards, I'd imagine 3 years working at a bank, and the networking opportunities that could bring, would make it far easier than trying to break in from the Big 4.
I understand that having Deloitte or KPMG on your resume looks good, but having started your career at a large bank doesn't exactly look too shabby either (and in some cases, I'd even say the brand name was better from a bank- the difference in 'prestige' between the likes of Barclays/HSBC/Lloyds and KPMG/Deloitte isn't that clear cut IMO).
So why aren't retail banks discussed more on this forum? There's quite a few potential advantages, both in terms of the work you'll be doing, and the pay you'll be getting. You'll get the same qualification too. Yes, you won't have experience auditing a large number of clients, but audit sounds dull anyway, and as plenty plan to leave for banking after qualification, why not start there straight away?
Human rights Brigade getting pissy about severe punishment for rioters
28 Minutes ago: 17 August 2011 10: 57 human rights Brigade getting pissy about severe punishment for rioters http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16051275 Andrew Neilson of the Howard League for penal reform said: "the public disturbances are considered an aggravating factor, and that's fair enough.""But a complete lack of proportionality to some of the phrases are seems."
"They make a mockery of proportionality, which is a key principle of the judicial system."
Why they also talk about the human rights of people are, the destroyed peoples homes, companies, their lives, where were the human rights of those ehh?I think people should lose their 'human rights', when they do sh! t as in...
9 Minutes ago: 17 August 2011 11: 17 Re: human rights Brigade getting pissy about severe punishment for rioters steal a bottle of water = / = steal a bottle of water in aOnly as part of the riots, consumes large amounts of police resources, make a an accessory to the crime by distraction. Who the riots engaged are at least responsible in part for the arson and murders.
4 Minutes ago: 17 August 2011 11: 22 Re: human rights Brigade getting pissy about severe punishment for rioters I think the problem that people have is not that the rioters are oversentenced get, but compared to the expenses scandal, where people stole hundreds of thousands of pounds, or at least exploited, no set something similar. I think the expenses scandal was more people with a viable loophole, instead of doing something, which is definitely illegal, but you cannot expect to understand the idiots that come with this, they see discrimination of minute by minute, for them to see it, to expect the things. Only as part of the riots, consumes large amounts of police resources, make a an accessory to the crime by distraction. Who the riots engaged are at least responsible in part for the arson and murders.I think someone throw everything during the riots with attempted murder charged be should, where they have their stones land expect? * ING idiots. Last edited by Snagprophet; Before 3 minutes at 11: 25. 1 minute ago: 17 August 2011 11: 26 Re: human rights Brigade getting pissy about severe punishment for rioters Yes people suspend human rights if they can steal a shoe, bottle of water or a TV. There is this a reasonable reaction to petty theft. A bottle of water = / = steal to steal a bottle of water in a riotOnly as part of the riots, consumes large amounts of police resources, make a an accessory to the crime by distraction. Who the riots engaged are at least responsible in part for the arson and murders.
Are we all each responsible for our own actions or not? Why should someone punish other actions a determining factor as we other people? 1 Minute ago: 17 August 2011 11: 26 Re: human rights Brigade getting pissy about severe punishment for rioters I think the problem that people have is not that the rioters are oversentenced get, but compared to the expenses scandal, where people stole hundreds of thousands of pounds, or at least exploited, no set something similar. I think the expenses scandal was more people with a viable loophole, instead of doing something, which is definitely illegal, but you cannot expect to understand the idiots that come with this, they see discrimination of minute by minute, for them to see it, to expect the things.Well, is the same for hacking and the banking crisis, which were definitely illegal I think either served no real benefit to the public and in some cases a disadvantage. Again no records, got as far as I know.
