the largest welfare State in the history is America now?
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42 Minutes Ago: 16th November 2011 02:43 Re: is america now the biggest welfare state in history? We didn't ask or want to be involved in our current wars. We were dragged into them. First by the possible threat of WMDs in Iraq and then muslim terrorists forced us into Afghanistan. We are helping civilians in the middle-east, clearing up the mess left by imperial powers and are doing a good job of stabilizing the region. It will help ensure cheaper oil out of the middle east and gives us a good trade network out there. It's in nobody's interests to have a destroyed middle-east. The democrats on the other hand have done nothing but drive our deficit through the roof, try and introduce socialist healthcare and in general destroy our country. I don't know how we are going to survive another term of Obama.
The only thing I got from this was that you're gullible.
31 Minutes Ago: 16th November 2011 02:53 Re: is america now the biggest welfare state in history? So, you are so brainwashed that you are unwilling to actually argue the points. Typical democrat, ignoring the facts. Please don't destroy our country.lol stop licking the crack of sean hannity's ass. Brainwashed?---says Dykwia while looking in the mirror. Republicans aren't happy unless they are stripping rights away from americans. The republican candidates are a joke. I'm going to laugh so hard as they fall one by one. The tea party is nothing but a bunch of inbreds who escaped when the gate got left open. Round those idiots up and put them back in the cage where they belong.
Bush was and still is a liar. The wars were and still are a joke.
20 Minutes Ago: 16th November 2011 03:05 Re: is america now the biggest welfare state in history? Republicans aren't happy unless they are stripping rights away from americans.The democrats would like nothing more than to take away all our liberties: our freedom to own a gun, our freedom of speech, our freedom to spend and invest money as we like. Do you really want socialized healthcare, half the population working for the government and for Israel to be left to the Arab nations? I'm sorry, but democrats are trying to take away all our freedoms. It's horrible and it's not going to work. The people know better. Heck, do you realize the dems want to make gay marriage and gay adoption legal? I don't want any more states legalizing these.
Bush was and still is a liar. The wars were and still are a joke. That's easy to say in hindsight. The fact is that the middle-east is a much better place because of us. Last edited by DYKWIA; 19 Minutes Ago at 03:06.
12 Minutes Ago: 16th November 2011 03:13 Re: is america now the biggest welfare state in history? We didn't ask or want to be involved in our current wars. We were dragged into them. First by the possible threat of WMDs in Iraq and then muslim terrorists forced us into Afghanistan. We are helping civilians in the middle-east, clearing up the mess left by imperial powers and are doing a good job of stabilizing the region. It will help ensure cheaper oil out of the middle east and gives us a good trade network out there. It's in nobody's interests to have a destroyed middle-east. The democrats on the other hand have done nothing but drive our deficit through the roof, try and introduce socialist healthcare and in general destroy our country. I don't know how we are going to survive another term of Obama.
America's doing a terrible job of stabilising the region! Unlike many, I like to see the good in the Iraq/Afghanistan wars, but they aren't any more stable than they were (more free definitely, but not stable).America didn't take that much of a role in the Libya conflict. It was primarily led by Britain and France, who had to keep requesting that America did more (though granted, this is our region not yours so I don't think it was particularly unreasonable for America to step back as the rest of the NATO forces picked up the slack). Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think it's done anything special for Egypt recently (I know it financially supported their previous dictator though).
It did nothing to help the oppression in Bahrain, presumably because of their military presence there.
Then of course there is the huge support for Israel which - even if we say it's only self defence - is destabilising the entire area.
So all in all, if this is "doing a good job", I dread to see what a failed US foreign policy would look like.
9 Minutes Ago: 16th November 2011 03:15 Re: is america now the biggest welfare state in history? The democrats would like nothing more than to take away all our liberties: our freedom to own a gun, our freedom of speech, our freedom to spend and invest money as we like. Do you really want socialized healthcare, half the population working for the government and for Israel to be left to the Arab nations? I'm sorry, but democrats are trying to take away all our freedoms. It's horrible and it's not going to work. The people know better. Heck, do you realize the dems want to make gay marriage and gay adoption legal? I don't want any more states legalizing these.
That's easy to say in hindsight. The fact is that the middle-east is a much better place because of us.
Pretty funny how you show disgust at the attempt to give gay people more rights at the end of a little rant about how awful it is they are trying to take away your liberties!It's not a fact at all. It's a fact that there has been improvements - but to say the whole region is better off is ridiculous.
2 Minutes Ago: 16th November 2011 03:22 Re: is america now the biggest welfare state in history? The democrats would like nothing more than to take away all our liberties: our freedom to own a gun, our freedom of speech, our freedom to spend and invest money as we like. Do you really want socialized healthcare, half the population working for the government and for Israel to be left to the Arab nations? I'm sorry, but democrats are trying to take away all our freedoms. It's horrible and it's not going to work. The people know better. Heck, do you realize the dems want to make gay marriage and gay adoption legal? I don't want any more states legalizing these.
That's easy to say in hindsight. The fact is that the middle-east is a much better place because of us.
are you actually being...serious? Because if you are
I don't mean to sound offensive but from everything you've written you're coming across as a very very very stereotypical and brainwashed American...I suggest you follow your advice and "check the facts"
Palestinians want Jerusalem as the capital city of their state?
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Discuss events occurring around the world, relations between countries, or actions of any group or organization with an international focus.
1 Hour Ago: 25th September 2011 02:36 Re: Palestinians want Jerusalem as the capital city of their state? Yeah, I doubt Israel would ever agree to that.
You are excused. I couldn't resist.
59 Minutes Ago: 25th September 2011 03:02 Re: Palestinians want Jerusalem as the capital city of their state? The capital of Israel was first Tel-Aviv, every single country's embassy is located there; not one is in Jerusalem. Go to any country and all embassies are at the capitals. It was switched from Tel-Aviv to Jerusalem because they used the religion card. Go figure... Before the 1967 war, I think and if I'm wrong, whoops, Jerusalem was on Palestinian territory, but afterwards, and now that Israel is using Jerusalem as it's capital, they're using it as a strategic (and religious) maneuver to keep it and probably keeping it so they don't go back to pre-1967 borders. If they do, and the whole international community has been pushing this for years, they lose a chunk of their so called "sacred" city to the Palestinians who had it in the first place.
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11 Minutes Ago: 25th September 2011 03:51 Re: Palestinians want Jerusalem as the capital city of their state? The capital of Israel was first Tel-Aviv, every single country's embassy is located there; not one is in Jerusalem. Go to any country and all embassies are at the capitals. It was switched from Tel-Aviv to Jerusalem because they used the religion card. Go figure... Before the 1967 war, I think and if I'm wrong, whoops, Jerusalem was on Palestinian territory, but afterwards, and now that Israel is using Jerusalem as it's capital, they're using it as a strategic (and religious) maneuver to keep it and probably keeping it so they don't go back to pre-1967 borders. If they do, and the whole international community has been pushing this for years, they lose a chunk of their so called "sacred" city to the Palestinians who had it in the first place.
Who built the temple in Jerusalem? I think the Jews were there first and it's their sacred city... most sacred city in Islam is Mecca isn't it?49 - 67 Jerusalem divided
There wasn't anything recognised as 'palestinian territory' in 1967 - Jordan occupied eastern Jerulalem though, are you telling us that the Palestinians are really Jordanians? maybe they could just go and live in Jordan then.
11 Minutes Ago: 25th September 2011 03:51 Re: Palestinians want Jerusalem as the capital city of their state? Yep. Israel will get so angry at the Palestinians it will literally resort to nuking itself just to be rid of them no matter what. Sounds feasible bro
you clown. Israel and Palestine get into some war or altercation, Iran steps in to help Israel with their secret nukes, Israel calls their bluff, Israel gets nuked, US jews get upset and nuke Iran, Russia thinks nukes are coming for them and nuke the US, Mrs America... I mean Britain gets told help the US and make sandwiches for the white house in the meantime, Britain gets nuked too, France builds a spaceship and runs away to Mars, Russians roll into Europe and crush Germany, China decides to nuke anyone in the far east area that doesn't join them, India and Pakistan take advantage of world war III to nuke each other... and yeah, that's how it all ends. But in all seriousness most of the above scenario and many more are ways how the whole Israel- Palestine thing could go nuclear.
1 Minute Ago: 25th September 2011 04:01 Re: Palestinians want Jerusalem as the capital city of their state? you clown. Israel and Palestine get into some war or altercation, Iran steps in to help Israel with their secret nukes, Israel calls their bluff, Israel gets nuked, US jews get upset and nuke Iran, Russia thinks nukes are coming for them and nuke the US, Mrs America... I mean Britain gets told help the US and make sandwiches for the white house in the meantime, Britain gets nuked too, France builds a spaceship and runs away to Mars, Russians roll into Europe and crush Germany, China decides to nuke anyone in the far east area that doesn't join them, India and Pakistan take advantage of world war III to nuke each other... and yeah, that's how it all ends. But in all seriousness most of the above scenario and many more are ways how the whole Israel- Palestine thing could go nuclear.
Iran wouldn't nuke Palestinians in Israel. Apart from that the rest of your post sounds realistic.
